でも、如果这种“A/B”就一定要规定成“A攻B受”的事情发生在英文fandom，我就绝对受不了了。这也是为啥，看着QAF，看着HP，看着SPN，看着TW/DW这些的同人，我宁愿去看英文原文的原因，因为真的不能接受“攻受”这种标签被贴在那些男主角身上。日本动漫自有他们的一个世界设定，那与西方原作的东西是完全不同的，至少我这样认为。英文圈子里，他们都是顶天立地的男人啊！！不是什么平胸也不是什么女体。当然我没有说日本动漫里那些人就全是平胸女体，但是，但是，绝对有那种平胸女体的！！！而且很多很多……很著名的《没有钱系列》，那根本就是拇指姑娘和巨人OTZ
但是的但是，英文原作的同人圈，变成中文之后，为毛，为毛一定要卡死在“体位”的框框里？为毛一定要规定，XX总受这些？！
我们看的是fanfic slash，不是OOC，更不是Sue，Merlin啊……
幸好，undun大姐告诉我，在英文的同人圈，至少是HP圈子，没有类似于这样的规定，尽管很多作者同时也是日本动漫的Fans，拍胸口……于是说，我可以安心了，不是自己out，而是这个圈子的扭曲的走向。
【以下就是我的问题还有undun大姐的回复，请祝福undun大姐的妈妈今天生日快乐
可以B4我的破烂英文= =但是不接受人身攻击！！】
One more question~~
发件人： 水蓝色的鱼 (lzqsk at hotmail.com)
发送时间： 2009年11月7日 21:19:15
收件人： undunoops (undunoops at yahoo.com)
Hello undun (also my kindly Teacher^^),
I've worked out so I think now it's probably OK for me with LJ/IJ : ) Thank you!
I saw the story on your IJ and already collected them all in my computer. But I want to ask, is there really involved Snarry? As Snarry is not my cup of tea, no offence, I'm afraid I can't read much of it, beacuse on your IJ the title is 'Fic: Recovery Position, SS/RL, SS/HP, NC-17', I just want to confirm it.
'Under the Influence' is really brilliant! Love that, and 'Stone Cold Sober' is much much much longer, my friend cain_ma is working on translating ~I'm waiting : )
For stories, I simply have my own prejudice with Potters, both Harry and James, so there won't be too much tales left for me, sigh
And, here is my question, not about writing, but on the Fandom.
Could you please tell me, in English fandom community, is there any differences between 'Lupin/Snape' and 'Snape/Lupin' ?(take them as example, the real thing is 'A/B' VS.'B/A'). I've used with 'Snape/Lupin=Lupin/Snape=Snupin', but in Chinese fandom, they take these as totaly opposite thing. I guess maybe comes from Japanese fandom, 'seme' vs.'uke'.
They divided this according who doms in bed. For instance, if the Paring is 'Lupin/Snape', then Snape MUST be the accepter('uke') during their sex.
I don't like that kind of thing in English fandom (but for Japan Comics is OK), also have had some little conflicts with them who highly insist on this. I think it's rather uncomfortable to have a 'woman-like' Snape(or Lupin), or label them just by the position, especially when the original is from west-world.
For me, who doms in bed is not such important thing, I always focus more on the story itself, but there do have soooo many girls in Chinese fandom, they even argue somtimes, about top!Snape vs. bottom!Snape (should be seme!Snape vs. uke!Snape exactly).
I'm a big fan of Japanese Drama and Comics, I can understand 'seme' and 'uke' in Japanese fandom well, that even can be harmonious, but I just can't accept, just confused with this in English fandom. So is this true in English? Do you have the same ruls as well? Or, just we mislead by Japanese fandom, put the wrong thing in English?
Sorry about writing back late.
Thank you!
Best wishes,
Doris
Re: One more question~~?
发件人： s c-r (undunoops at yahoo.com)
发送时间： 2009年11月8日 20:38:25
收件人： 水蓝色的鱼 (lzqsk at hotmail.com)
Hi Doris!
First, let me say I have been lazy and have not written to you regarding some clarification on the use of 'semi-colon', very bad of me! I will do this after a good night's sleep. It was my mum's birthday today, so I am a bit too tired after doing all the party cooking and cleaning. :-)
Secondly, your question about my story -- it is not a snarry. It does feature a Snape who *appears* to be in love with Harry, who he assumes is dead, but it is most certainly a snupin story, written by a snupin writer, ;-)
I wrote it in a certain way to explore the dynamic between Lupin and Snape, and I think I was writing my own argument against snarry! :-) In the story -- and I don't want to spoil you for the storyline too much -- I write Snape coming to terms with his weakness and growing up emotionally with Lupin's help. I wrote Snape as very angry and unpleasant, but basically a good person who is improved at the end. He does have mistakes and must learn by them. It also has some humour!
Now, on to your interesting question. I am not a consumer of Japanese yaoi or anime or any media from Japan -- which is a bit strange because I have a brother living there! However, I do know some people who like it very much. I had no knowledge of seme and uke until they told me what it meant. I can see how it is a format used by Japanese media, but I don't see it used in HP slash fandom, except by a few HP/DM fans. Most fans don't bring it into HP, but possibly some people who have their main fandom in Japanese media will bring that format with them when getting into HP fandom. I don't think it holds together very well, because as you know HP writers like to experiment and like variety. The seme/uke format is very restrictive creatively. And yes, you are right to say that it isn't a traditional format for English fandom such as Harry Potter, but I'm sure there are many English-speaking fans who like the Japanese-based fandom and its format of seme/uke.
Perhaps the fans who like HP/DM (drarry) also like that pair because it is similar to a lot of yaoi pairs? I'm only guessing, I don't know enough about it.
It is a good question, and I find it very rare that people will insist on one character always being in one position. Probably the closest thing English fandom has to seme/uke is Mpreg. I have written an Mpreg story myself, and I did not want to feminise my character at all. I think it worked to keep the character masculine at all times.
I hope I have given you a good answer!
I was so happy to see you post your snupin drabble! I hope you put many more on IJ! :-)
xxx
undun
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